Our Host: Hey how you ‘doin today?
Govt: Great, Sorry for starting late.
Our Host: It’s okay, we know politicians all around the globe live in the next time zone than everyone else.
F.A.L.(Fake Audience Laugh)
Govt: No comments.
F.A.L.
Our Host: Well, better late than never, right? Tell us something about yourself. I really do want to know, what the hell is the real idea behind you?

Govt: Well, let’s say if there were only 10 people fully built and then left somewhere in a piece of land, there will come a time when one of them goes, “Hey! you know what, here’s a good thing I learned about this place. Let’s all pick up a paper and write this on it, just in case we forget this. And, also let’s all start doing this thing and if in case that’s bad, let’s all never do that ever again.”
Now imagine the same thing happening in more than one place, over and over again. Then, once upon a time, a group of people got together, wrote all of that important knowledge down in a book, and you have your The Constitution. After that, it’s very easy, just follow every rule written in that Rule-Book.

Our Host: Is that the best idea we have for making sure something very important gets done on a mass scale, as well as from a long distance?
Govt: You know that very old saying, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
Our Host: Looking at how you turned out to be, I’d say that isn’t a very good advice.
F.A.L.

Our Host: So, the rule book you were talking about, how does it actually work?
Govt: Well, there is this very strange equilibrium, in which everyone involved has to follow those rules so that everyone involved has some rights at that same time because everyone is following those rules…But don’t forget, both of these ideas are fictional: Rules and Rights, they are a great idea but I hate to be the bearer of bad news, they’re just a concept. That’s why sometimes some people might feel like they have no rights at all, but rights are not rights if someone can just take them away.

Our Host: Does this strange cycle of Rules & Rights take any amount of energy?
Govt: Yeah, a certain amount of time and money and everything from everyone involved.
Our Host: And you are saying, that you are the one who has to take care of all this stuff?
Govt: Well, if everyone working in government takes holiday for some time, things would start getting a bit messy very soon.
Our Host: And I wonder what will happen if everyone working in the government takes holiday forever?
F.A.L.
Govt: That would be an interesting idea for a fictional novel.
F.A.L.

Our Host: Okay, you mentioned two very heavy words without any protection, rules & rights. What’s the basic idea behind them or as language would say “it’s right name”?
Govt: Okay, you ready!, here we go: If you wanted to classify all of the evils in this world into two categories, the first classification you’d make would be:

  • Natural evils like extreme weather conditions, earthquakes, asteroids, etc.which even if you wanted to, you couldn’t control them, so no question of preventing them. Best you can do is predict them.
  • Then there are the artificial evils like Terrorism, Fascism, among many other -isms. Now, if there was somewhere else in the Universe, a similar species that had evolved like humans, we will find that many of these “isms” appear unique to Earth’s human race. You know, the ones made artificially by earthlings. You know, the ones that could even be prevented, if one was so inclined.

So, after humans learned a language, and became aware of the knowledge accessible to them, there wasn’t much interesting happening on Earth until humans started getting organized into groups with similar interests. Hence, organizations. And the concept of power. For the very first time in our humanity, the artificial evil because of which millions of same got unlocked. A very finely evolved form of that power is this government about which we are talking right now. And Rules & Rights are the building blocks of any government.

Our Host: So, which was the first organization that realized they are an organization?
Govt: There wasn’t any first organization as such but here’s how any organization evolves:

  • A group of one, believe in some same thing: That would The Individual
  • A group of two, believe in some same thing: Friends
  • A group of three, believe in some same thing: Family
  • A group of families believes in some same thing: Relatives
  • A group of friends believes in some same thing: A bigger ‘group of friends’
  • A group involving all of the above, who believe in some same thing: An even bigger group also known as the organization.

Every one of those can claim the title of the first organization because even in a group as small as two, at least some individual space is definitely cut-off.
F.A.L.
The definition of organization evolved with time, one of which was involved in rights & rules and making sure those rules are followed and everyone has those rights, on a large scale as well as from a large distance, became a monarchy, became a government.

Our Host: I had just heard stories of good diplomatic answers before, but I am truly witnessing them for the very first time.
F.A.L.

Our Host: Okay, coming back to your equilibrium or whatever, but in real time either, you have an unlimited number of rights or none at all. We wanna know which one is it?
Govt: First of all once again, there is no physical thing as rights that you can just give someone or take back from someone. It’s just an idea of rights in the concept of constitution. So, if you go with this and see which case seems likely:

  • There are unlimited rights, I mean who wouldn’t want that, right? The right to your every opinion? I’d like that. I’d like to do whatever I please. But if I do something that you don’t like, I think you have the right to kill me. So unlimited rights wouldn’t work practically.
  • No rights at all. That would mean no freedom at all. We know that’s not the case. We enjoy all the freedom that we can easily get. So, we have some freedom or whatever we talk about when we talk about freedom.
  • We now know, the number of rights are not zero, it’s not infinite. It’s somewhere in between. But theoretically and practically, as you said it, either it would be zero or Infinite.

F.A.L.

Hey, when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
F.A.L
But a not so bummed-up-way to think about it is that rights are ‘some temporary privileges’. But again, if you read the news even badly every day, then you know the list is getting shorter and shorter every day. Enjoy as much as you can this idea of freedom, the idea of rights.

Our Host: We have to cover a FAN question before we continue if it’s OK.
Fan: I am one of those who has spent all their lifetime listening that all men are equal, justice is blind, the press is free, your vote counts, business is honest, the good guys win, the police are on your side, God is watching you, your standard of living will never decline and everything is going to be just fine— You know, the official national bullshit story of every government. So my, and I know many others whose, question is that why is their need for a Government instead of no-government-at-all.
F.A.L.

Govt: From where shall I start, Mr. Rebel? Let’s say there’s a 20-year old somewhere who is, just like everyone, thinking about what to do with his life? A very reasonable thing to do at least once in a lifetime, right? So, the most accepted and most popularly accepted philosophy now-a-days is “Try to solve as many problems as you could. At the very least, the ones you are passionate about, the ones you care about deeply.” Now, if someone decided to tackle the biggest problem, the problem of democracy, then at that time it’s very easy thing to conclude the official national bullshit story can all be solved by abolishing the system completely. It’s a very good conclusion as far a Group Discussion is concerned, but then if you try to examine the practicality of abolishing the system, then the people who have spent their whole life studying this will raise very legitimate points that something is absolutely necessary, at least for taking care of all the artificial evils. So, it wouldn’t be rational to just start abolishing the system, unless you have a complete system for a smooth transition from currently placed systems to your alternative better ones. But the more you’ll try to examine more you’ll come to conclusions like:

  • The system passed it’s repairing point long-long time before you were born and get depressed that you were born in a slightly fucked up system.
  • Most of the people who have tried to repair the system ended up in even more fucked up positions, and then get depressed that you can’t follow your life-long dream as a career because you’ll die even sooner in this.
  • Third and the last that, “Any governmental system of today is only as good as it’s politicians.”

You see, unlike others, I have grown out of that combined hatred that we all share towards all the Politicians of the world. Most people might not even know how the system works in North Korea, but they sure hate it’s politicians too. But, I have grown a strange sympathy towards politicians, overtime. Why?, for that, I have a question for all the Politician haters: “Where do you think all the bad politicians come from, year after year?” And, if you wanted to verify this for yourself, I suggest you collect all autobiographies of all the politicians of all time. You’ll see that they are also perfectly normal human beings. When they were not being a politician, like everyone else, they were also hating the government of their time. All the politicians are also one of us, perfectly normal, perfectly frustrated about the system.

We have spent way too time on this question and I just have one last thing to add to all this. So, to find the loophole here, let’s go back to Preamble page of our civics book which says: “of the people, by the people, for the people.” In other words, “any government system is actually as good as it’s people” So, let’s we wanted to elect most of the good politicians, that means you’d need at least half of the population be as good so that they can vote for those good politicians. That means we have a system in which you cannot, in any way have good politicians, and thus a government unless we have a good population. So, the real issue to solve ain’t the politicians, it is the uneducated people. You’ll automatically have great politicians and hence an awesome governance too, once we have a great education system continuously educating all the people involved. It’s an easy thing to conclude that Politicians are somehow responsible for all of your problems and that they’d all go away if the whole of the government was simply abolished. If you really pride yourself as an open minded person, and as an intelligent one too, then you know that there can be more than one way of doing the same thing. So yeah, abolishing everything and redesigning it from scratch will work just fine, but just educating people in this very same system, will cost way less.

Fan: All the people who have told us to Live together in harmony and Love one another: Gandhi, John Lenon, Martin Luther King Jr., even Jesus were assassinated by people, just for preaching love. After knowing this stranger pattern, how would you go about rationally motivating that 20-year old to come and do good work for the government like all those gentlemen, who without any exception, were all assassinated for no fault of their own?

Govt: The only rational explanation that comes to my mind is that apparently, some people were not ready for that type of behavior. Somehow, everyone living in harmony and peace did not suit some people’s interests…. or may be, there’s some central flaw in the idea of loving everyone. Maybe love is cute as far as two people are concerned, but “loving everyone”, is just something that sounds appealing but doesn’t work in real scenarios. I’ll leave this choice to you. It’d be a good test to check if the person is a realistic one or a romantic one. I wish I had a more positive answer.

Our Host: There have been many movements regarding raising the standards of politics. Not naming any, one common theme they’ve all put forward is ‘what about the real owners of the country.’ About abolishing this and any system in which top 1% people control far more wealth and power than rest 99%.

Govt: Earlier we were talking about how organizations were made, so fast-forwarding from that time to present. Don’t know for the better or worse, we don’t have any one single organization controlling everything, but every organization wants to be that one. If you have more than one organization on the playing field, you can measure two characteristics of a market: Competition and Co-operation among them. If these two are balanced, it’s awesome, If co-operation is up, no complaints, If competition is up it’s called business. And this is the present state of affairs, competition is far more than cooperation. That’s how it got to 1%-99% state. These one percenters are what they refer to ‘the real owners.’ These are the ones who have always been in power no matter what government it is.

But what keeps me up at night is that if something like owners exists and we know what they want, they want more for themselves and less for the others. Then, of course, they’re not gonna want a well-informed public who can rebel against them. They just want obedient workers who can keep showing up at work whenever they please. It’s difficult to bring about a change in something if you’re at odds with those owners. That’s why education system has always sucked, and that’s why all initiatives have failed too. They have kept sucking from the tax-paying and hard-working middle class and they’ll continue doing so by making sure there’s a poor-class, just to scare the shit out of middle class. You know, to provide some motivation for the middle class to keep showing up on those under-paid, over-timed and routine jobs.

Our Host: One common solution everyone keeps on ranting about is Education. Talk about any problem, Education is the answer to everything. Anything else that could be an equal life-changer?
Govt: Have you ever been in that kind of meeting, where you felt like, “How can so many people think technology can be the solution to every of our so-called-problems?”
Our Host: Nope, but I am going to have a similar interview with technology too, so I’ll verify how much of that is correct.

Govt: You’ll find that some kind of technological magic has always has been the solution to many of the artificial evils and problems we had created.
Technology guys/gals will somehow make you believe that everything is not that fucked up. Everyone is not that bad. They’ll somehow find every con’s story, and also find this similarity that, that con man was in some sort of power or authority. Another similarity you’d find is that they’ve never had those type of thoughts before they were in power. I seriously believe that an active participation of everyone, interested and capable of making a decision/law, through an open-source-technological-democracy-application-interface can bring about the desired change. This is just what I could come up with just now. Imagine what can an organization of people working on this do?

Our Host: Why is a government that big of a deal?
Govt: Because those are the people who literally control your everything, you are talking about a way to organize and maintain society.
Basically, it’s one of the structures that have become a necessity for this so-called civilized world. A governmental organization does things which no other private organization would do, but that thing is necessary, it had to be done. It might range from providing food to poor to some technogical risk of a rocket trip to moon.  But that’s been out-fashioned for years now, rule-book isn’t updated and maintained regularly, and no one wants to work in it, for it and by it.

But still, let’s say if you had an awesome idea, like we should all start using digital currency as much as possible. And you wanted to make it work at a large scale. Then government with all its power can enforce that very easily. That’s why it’s that big of a deal. Earlier it was necessary so that in an apocalyptic situation, you needed someone who can take a rational decision for everyone. But now, those apocalyptic situations are very rare. Now the only need is for someone to take the rational decision in a normal situation, i. e.   to improve it.

Our Host: I’ve noticed that being rational is a central character of your life. Sometimes, some people might confuse that rationality with diplomacy. But I’m not one of them. So, my question is what would be the best rational governmental system to have?
Govt: Sometimes the most diplomatic answer is the rational one. So, A rational government system? That is as meaningless as what is the best home for me. A system good for some may not be applicable at all to any other group of people. A Utopian government can’t exist without Utopian society. Period.

Our Host: Okay, I want to end this with a story you wrote once about your first experience of Power. I’ve heard people say it changed their life like none else. I think the original one is now lost. Can we have the complete story directly from you?

Govt: Power is a big thing. And I used to think it’s at play only in big places before I experienced it at what can be called ‘individually human level’ in the end of my teenage. I am sure you all know many people who have had a similar experience. My dad expired when I was 18. And I was studying science at that time and was way too deep into what theories, we have about how Universe was formed. That, if we cut out the emotional part of the mind, can we still explain everything just rationally?

Our Host: Did it work? Explaining everything rationally?
Govt: Here’s how it went. There was no stupid wish that my Dad had for that day. So, rationally, I’d have liked to bury the body, instead of burning it as it has always been in our family. But I knew none other than my maternal grandfather, who would like to hear something like that, at that moment. So, I released the sails and let the wind row me wherever it was going. And all that time, also aware that this memory is gonna haunt me for the rest of my life. And now I have to deal with it actually, and I am not even in control of that.
And at the similar time, I was dating someone who was getting somewhat into poetry and she posted on my Facebook wall:

…the sea’s only gifts are harsh blows and, occasionally, the chance to feel strong. Now, I don’t know much about the sea, but I do know that that’s the way it is here. And I also know how important it is in life not necessarily to be strong but to feel strong, to measure yourself at least once, to find yourself at least once in the most ancient of human conditions, facing blind, deaf stone alone, with nothing to help you but your own hands and your own head…

Now here’s what I want you to do, try explaining rationally, how a person born a century before, who never knew me, explained everything I was feeling in just one paragraph when all other adults around me were behaving exactly like they shouldn’t. And it’s not their fault either because if you even try to go rationally around this one, at some point you’ll end up questioning humanity itself. And as far as the experiences go, you wouldn’t want to have that.

Our Host: When you know psychology too much that, you can’t even get mad at other people because you already know how they are feeling.
F. A. L.

Our Host:  Well that’s it from my side. Thank you for being here with us for some time.
Govt: Always at your service, whenever you need me.
F. A. L.